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Post by Kristi on Aug 15, 2011 15:40:35 GMT
I don't see why they don't have to pass basic health checks to BE a show dog, it would make sense, wouldn't it?
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Post by Sarah on Aug 15, 2011 16:38:51 GMT
Yes it would after all they're meant to be fit for function!! We see dogs hopping around the ring here  |
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Post by brodysmom on Aug 15, 2011 16:41:16 GMT
I don't see why they don't have to pass basic health checks to BE a show dog, it would make sense, wouldn't it? OMG. I agree 100%!!!! Don't let anything in the ring until it's been cleared of patellas, heart, and eyes. Now then a championship would really mean something!!! And it would TRULY be about the betterment of the breed. |
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Post by Kristi on Aug 15, 2011 17:40:00 GMT
I just don't understand why AKC doesn't require it...I understand some larger breeds the tests are more expensive and extensive, can't be done until older, but if you think about it, it would FORCE people to choose to use healthy dogs!
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Post by Codi on Aug 17, 2011 4:43:18 GMT
Izzie has Grade 3 in her right knee. It's always out, but can pop back in. The vet thinks it's always out, and she is just able to put it back in, but I feel it shift when I pick her up sometimes, sooo yeah..
Anyways, her left knee is still good, vet said without trying TOO hard, she can't get it to luxate at all. Hopefully we never need to do surgery at all. Right now she acts like nothing is wrong and never favors it or acts like it bothers her. But if it ever does, as others said, she can live with 3 legs. Hopefully her left stays good. I don't ever want to put her through surgery, especially that harsh of one! But she is very bow legged and stuff. But she is just 3.6 lbs and very skinny (as skinny as she can be healthily) at 9 months. Thankfully, for now, both of Bella's knees are still good.
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Post by rosiesmum on Aug 17, 2011 7:39:31 GMT
We see dogs hopping around the ring here That is shocking, what a shame The British Chiahuahua Club allow it to happen, surely judges should be disqualifying dogs that have this issue? Personally I think BCC should insist that it's members yearly test ALL dogs and bitches they breed from and be able to show people using their stud dog that certificate ... and also anyone buying a pup from them, whether another breeder/show person or pet owner. It would not guarantee a pup bought would not develop patella luxation, but it would be good to be able to see a CURRENT clear certificate from dam and stud dog used  If breeders have nothing to "hide" then I can't see why this isn't adopted? Patella luxation is a problem in the UK and if it's actually being seen in the ring, then it's surely time BCC opened their eyes and did something constructive? Maybe they are? Have plans to? Time they did Having a Chihuahua with PL is heartbreaking, it's horrible for the dog, surgery is pretty major orthopaedic stuff, often goes wrong if general vet used, it's expensive and has extended recovery period. IT NEEDS to be taken seriously here in the UK, and of course everywhere Just my thoughts of course. |
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Post by Sarah on Aug 17, 2011 7:44:41 GMT
Izzie has Grade 3 in her right knee. It's always out, but can pop back in. The vet thinks it's always out, and she is just able to put it back in, but I feel it shift when I pick her up sometimes, sooo yeah.. Anyways, her left knee is still good, vet said without trying TOO hard, she can't get it to luxate at all. Hopefully we never need to do surgery at all. Right now she acts like nothing is wrong and never favors it or acts like it bothers her. But if it ever does, as others said, she can live with 3 legs. Hopefully her left stays good. I don't ever want to put her through surgery, especially that harsh of one! But she is very bow legged and stuff. But she is just 3.6 lbs and very skinny (as skinny as she can be healthily) at 9 months. Thankfully, for now, both of Bella's knees are still good. So are you saying that if her knee progresses to grade 4 which it is likely to as she is a puppy and not fully grown that you won't correct it?? Being bow legged is a totally different structural problem than luxating Patellas which can cause additional gaiting problems. Weight IMO doesn't even come into it... Animals far smaller have surgeries and izzy is not fully grown if she was exceptionally small then I would be hesitant but she's not! Being grade 3 as a puppy is severe.. It progresses and as they get older they can end up riddled with arthritis and totally lame.. After all our dogs are bred for companionship I personally wouldn't want members of my family to have a poor quality life and live with a dehabilitating grade 4 patella
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Post by rosiesmum on Aug 17, 2011 7:47:58 GMT
It's perhaps worth mentioning that the specialist orthopaedic vet we saw with Jago said that patella luxation is not an issue with the groove in the kneecap as many general vets will tell owners, it's a problem with the connecting tendons at the knee. So when some general vets go in and deepen grooves, they are doing more harm than good and dog will need further surgery ... often to not only repair PL but the damage done by previous vet He also said that checking 8/12 week old puppies was a waste of time as when small it's not possible to tell if PL will develop at such a young age. x |
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